senator sherrod brown. we have nina turner coming up later on. >> i love watching nina on your show. >> i get you passionate ohio folks mixed up. >> that's okay. >> sherrod brown with us and mary kay henry, president of the services employment international union who met with the president today. i would be remiss, mary kay, if i did not ask you right off the bat, did the president say he was not going to budge on taxes? he did it once in 2010, and he won't do it again? >> the president was incredibly serious and focused and really relieved to hear that we are going to keep our ground game going, that our working people and community members all across this country are ready to have this fight and want to have the middle class tax cuts permanently extended. that's the action that congress can take right now. and then work together to make sure that the wealthiest americans pay their fair share so we can get back to work. >> well, did he tell the group that he was not going to budge on taxes? >> he was cryst